But if he starts talking about it openly then the punishment has to follow.” “I didn't know about any of this that you've been telling me, and I made no sort of request that you be punished, I was simply acting on principle.” “Franz,” said Willem, turning to the other policeman, “didn't I tell you that the gentleman didn't say he wanted us to be punished? Now you can hear for yourself, he didn't even know we'd have to be punished.” “Don't you let them persuade you, talking like that,” said the third man to K., “this punishment is both just and unavoidable.” “Don't listen to him,” said Willem, interrupting himself only to quickly bring his hand to his mouth when it had received a stroke of the cane, “we're only being punished because you made a complaint against us.